on c-span2, a look at what happens to individual taxes if the bush era tax cuts expire. former congressional budget office director douglas holtz-eakin and other economists look at the issue. our live coverage from the urban institute here in washington, d.c. starts at noon eastern. >> every generation through our history has worked and sacrificed to leave a better country to their children and grandchildren and future generations. we, we were then spending their money, we are now even more, much more, spending their money, and we are leaving them a mess that will be a very difficult to deal with, and if we are that weak, just think of who wants to come here first and take us over. now, the last thing i ever want to see is to see our country taken over because we're so financially weak we can't do anything. >> uh-huh. >> and we're moving in that direction. we're on the edge of the cliff, and we have got to start fixing it now, otherwise we're leaving a disaster to our children and grandchildren in the future, and we could even lose our country. >> ross perot, interviewed by "us